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Tall neck Chinese white vases with green Dragons

by Sal Kahil
(Vancouver BC Canada)

picture of the pair

picture of the pair

Hello Peter,
I just got home from buying a pair of long neck white Chinese vases with pea green dragons design on them.

I really love them.
Dimensions: 25" high x 14.5" diameter
He is a Dutch descent and they were belong to his parents.
The maker/maker period mark in located on the upper side of the neck under the glaze.
Although they are supposed to be identical but with a close look. they are a quit a bit different.
Peter I am in your hands

the link to pictures:

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Jun 13, 2011
 celadon vases
by: peter

Hi Sal,
The auction link lead to celadon vases.
Celadon vases like other monochrome vases are a separate category. They are often more difficult to judge because there is no decoration that provides hints as to its age or to traces of faking.
Therefore, the bottom and foot rim get sometimes all-important, when evaluating if an item is recent or antique. Hands-on inspection is always better with those.

It is also important to know that celadons are one of the oldest glazed porcelains, thus Yuan or even Song dynasty celadons usually command a better price. But the foot of authentic ones is quite different from those of the Ming or Yuan dynasties.
As always, you have to take this with a grain of salt, there are almost always exceptions to the rule. But, while lots of the older monochromes or celadons were copied in the Qing dynasty, they almost always have a glazed bottom. Thus, an unglazed bottom has to be carefully inspected.

Back to the long-necked vases, the bottom is too uniformly brown. This is mostly a sign that the clay on the bottom was brushed over or treated in a manner; genuinely old ones were not.
If you have an opportunity to look at unglazed Song dynasty bottoms, you will find that they often have an uneven color. That is due to the firing methods and pre-firing handling at the time.
Jun 13, 2011
 you were "almost" always right
by: Sal kahil

Good morning Peter,
I never, either, saw that type of vase before. I live in Chinatown and I love Chinese vases.

you were "almost" always right every time I sent a request. I do my search first and to confirm my feeling and conclusion, I have to send you my request because I value your opinion and expertise.

I saw this on the net. Although, my vases had the same Chinese Characters on them, I had my suspicions about how old they are,

thank you for your help
cheers
Jun 13, 2011
 vases
by: peter

Hi Sal,
No one is in my hands, hehehe.
I would rather that people can judge their own items instead of relying on me. It is sometimes not easy telling people that what they have isnot a valuable antique, when they are so clearly hoping it.

I never saw that type of vase, but the bottom alone convinces me that this is relatively new. This type of unglazed bottom does just not look old, in my view. This is probably not an antique item.

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