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Qing or republic porcelain

by stan
(milwaukie oregon)

HI Peter, after buying really good fakes, I was down for awhile, but I think I found something that is really an antique, this vase has provenance, It went through the San-Francisco earthquake in 1908, the antique dealer that I bought this from said that the family that consigned the vase to him, said that they know that the vase is old but they did not know the true age, could you, the vase is 23-3/4 high and 9-1/2 wide at the widest point, it has soldiers, horses and what appears to be an elephant and some other creature unknown, could you please tell me what the mark is on the bottom and how old do you think it is, there is a lot of yellow in the vase so I don't think it could be late qing so maybe early republic since it did go through the 1908 earthquake, thanks for your help. Stan., I am sending 16 photo's here is 4, thanks again.

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Early Republic
by: stan

Hi Shen, thanks for posting, I think it is early republic as well, that would explain all the yellow glaze, as Peter has taught me, they only used yellow on the imperial porcelain in the Qing period, I could be wrong but I do not think they used yellow in the late Qing, thanks again.
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by: Shen

hi, there
it seems a good early Republic one.
good size!

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qing or republic porcelain

by stan
(Milwaukie Oregon)

Hi, here is more photo's of the vase, sending more

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Qing or early Republic porcelain

by stan
(milwaukie oregon)

Hi again, this vase is so detailed that I am sending lots of pictures. Thanks

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Qing or early Republic porcelain

by stan
(milwaukie oregon)

HI Peter, here is the last set of photo's, if you need anything else let me know, the last set, there was a women in the photo, there is only one women on the vase, maybe you can tell me by the way she wares her hair how old the vase is, thanks again. Stan.

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Knowledge is power
by: Stan

Hi Shelley, before I found Peters web site, I did not know much, the vases I had were old but most of them were Japanese, and I thought they were Chinese, I can say now that I know the difference, there is a lot of good information on this web site, study it and you will have a good chance of not being burned, just because a mark is not of the period dose not mean it is not a good antique, Chinese marks were often used throuhg out the centuries, and are only spurious marks, porcelain itself ages with time, you can learn how to detect these age signs by reading examples on this site, thanks again to Peter for having a site like this and giving his opinion on your Items, if I were you I would post your Item and you will be given a good idea of what you have, thanks for posting. Stan.
Chinese antique
by: Shelley

Stan and Peter,
I have always been interested in Chinese porcelain but had neither the time nor the money until about two years ago. I believe I have bought some real antiques like the Han terracotta horse riders and the Tang female musicians, Song bowls and some mescellaneous Republic period items but I have serious doubts about several Qianlong and Yongzheng vases as well as a porcelain incense burner. ( I will show them to you soon)I am very wary now. The problem is I can detect fakes in the forum but when it comes to mine, I am completely confused, especially when I am shown a "precious and rare" antique by the shopkeepers. I am going to visit the Taipei National museum soon and I will stop buying "antiques" for the moment.
Chinese Fangge vase
by: peter

Hi Stan,
Late Qing dynasty Fangge vase with warrior decoration.
The mark is illegible and out of center, but this is okay. I have seen this before.
Usually, Fangge vases aren't fully covered by the decoration, probably because the crackling of the glaze is the main decoration.

Please be careful when buying such vases. There is lots of newer ones, and some with old body and crackling but more recently painted decoration out there.

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