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Aug 13, 2011
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by: Andrew

Hi Peter,
Did a Christies search in past lots for ..famille rose mille fleurs vase
& 15 lots came up
Sale 7621, lot 236 featured a C20th piece, Sale 6819, lots 94 & 95 both with similar red seal Qianlong period markss.
Sale 2584, lot 313 a C19th piece.

Sothebys past lot search revealed 3 examples... lot 1608 with Yongzheng period mark & most recently Sothebys had on 29/3/2011 a "Property of a Palm Beach Private Collector ...lot 61 a 5 piece altar garniture set selling for over 2 mill.

hope the site info helps.
let me know what you think with mine in comparison.
regards, Andrew.
Aug 10, 2011
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by: peter

Hope you are right, Andrew. Would you let me know if you find any credible information on mille fleur decorations, please?
It's just difficult to lay hands on any information on this type of vase. Even the Chinese books I have don't mention it, and the auction pictures from China also don't show any.
It's strange, because these decorations are quite popular with collectors, it seems.

And thanks for the additional pictures. Will let you know if I find anything on the subject.
Aug 10, 2011
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by: Anonymous

Hi Peter,
thanks again for your input.
Yes that is an image taken of the vase from inside of neck, on a cloudy day.

With regard to the unusual double banding on the bottom, there is also, in addition, to the iron red banding on top, an additional ruyi cloud banded pattern running around near the top of the shoulder of the vase as well.
Have put some more images of this in as well, as it's not clear enough to see properly on the images posted already.
Shot an image of the raised enamels as well.
Hope this all helps.
Read somewhere on web, that mille fleurs had its origins in Yongzheng period with the initial use of "ball flowers style", looking more abstract than realistic flowers that were painted later,eg. peonies, lotus etc, which became more preferred & more refined.
I would like to guess this style is an earlier version of mille fleurs whilst still under development & refinement, however a Republican period dating would exclude this theory.
any further comments welcome,
regards Andrew.
Aug 08, 2011
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by: peter

Hi Andrew,
I don't know any more about millefleur (or mille fiori) items than you, I'm afraid. And, I have almost no material showing such vases. The reason, I believe, is that few were made before the 20th century.
Here is a link to an earlier enquiry regarding one: https://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/qianlong-or-beg-20th-cent-vase.html

What I know is that such vases did exist in the Qianlong reign, but they have a specific decoration which is somewhat different. Then the others were either late Qing dynasty or republic. I'm a bit baffled by the double decoration band at the bottom end. Never saw that. But the rim certainly looks old, so I guess it is late Qing/republic period.

Please take that with a grain if salt. This is pure guess from a limited number of items I have seen. Just my personal view.

BTW, is that the outside decoration shining through to the inside, in the picture of the neck? If it is, this is a pretty thin walled vase.

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