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dinnerware

by Luigi
(Waterloo, ON, Canada)

I find this style of Chinese dinnerware. I know it's not an old antique, but I do see similar pieces sold in antique shops with the same design and style. The interesting thing about these pieces, like others, is the translucent holes on the dinnerware or teacups that allows light to shine through when held up to light. Can anyone give me anymore information? Period?

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Aug 17, 2011
Jingdezhen mark
by: peter

Caroline, items with a "Jingdezhen" mark are not antique. "Jingdezhen" never appeared in marks before the second half of the 20th century.

Aug 17, 2011
marking
by: caroline

Hello, I myself have been trying to date a set i have, in origional box too!! Mine has some sort of flowers on instead of a dragon, The mark i have discovered reads China Jingdezhen, It is a Factory mark, I am still unsure of dates but hope this helps you a little.

Oct 05, 2010
rice grain porcelain
by: peter

Luigi,
I can't give you any spedific mark. Just look for old-looking marks, like those in the Marks section. And, it is just as with the other antique items, the mark is the last to be looked at. It serves only for confirmation, but has always been different according to the place and era an item was made. No English on a hand-written mark, or no mark, could mean that it is older.

Look at the image here: https://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/help-identifying-ornate-chinese-soup-bowl-spoon.html

This should be an old one, no problem. The mark says Qianlong, but the spoon is not from that period, even the mark isn't. They just frequently used marks from earlier periods towards the late Qing dynasty and early 20th century.

You should recognize the age from the foot and foot rim condition and painting.

Do a Google image search with this "玲瓏瓷器" and you will see more different types.
You will find that the newer the blue and white rice grain porcelain is the more similar the pattern. Mass production is the reason. Those made today look similar as those made a couple of decades ago. The older the better the chance for variations. Again, look for hand painting, printed items have little value, and check for age signs. When not sure if it is old or not, the quality of work (hand painting) is sometimes decisive in view to price.

Oct 04, 2010
Mark
by: Anonymous

Thanks Peter! I assumed as much. I do see this pattern everywhere. The mark simply says made in china with made in China in Chinese characters on the top.

Could you point me in the direction of the proper marks to look for?

Thanks again so much for your expertise.

luigi

Oct 04, 2010
rice grain porcelain
by: peter

Hello,
That is the rice grain porcelain pattern. To my knowledge it has existed for at least for 200 years. It possibly is one of the most exported classic porcelain patterns today.

The mark is not clear enough to read it, but it appears to be a more recent mark. That is, the item it is either vintage or recent.
That said, if you want o collect the rice grain pattern, you should look for items that are hand painted. Use a magnifier to check for brush strokes. I would not collect any such items that are less than early republic or Qing dynasty, though. The reason is simply that there are so many of the newer ones available everywhere, even completely new ones, that the collecting value is too low. When collecting you should consider age and rarity. I am sure you will even see such porcelain in some Chinese restaurants.

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