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Aug 02, 2011
medaillon plate
by: peter

Hi Stan,
Good find. I bet the seller had no idea, otherwise the price tag would have a zero more! :-)

As to the vases depicting warriors. Antique Japanese porcelains often depict Chinese (style) people, meaning clothing and hairstyle, but to my experience that is mostly limited to scholars and ladies, not warriors. If you familiarize yourself with the attire of Chinese and Japanese warriors, this will often help deciding which one it is. They are quite easy to separate. Of course, there is the possibility of a modern Chinese imitation showing Japanese warriors, but I trust you can recognize if an item is old or new.

Please remember the footrim of this plate. This is one of several rim types that 18th century plates can have. It appears that those of the 19th never have rims shaped this way.

Aug 02, 2011
rose medallion plate
by: Stan

Hi Peter, I think you are right, I have some other pieces of the rose meddallion, but I do not have anything as old as this one. This plate was in a set of 7, and all of them said on the back made in China, I could tell they were old, early republic, but as I was inspecting them, there was this one that was not signed and the foot rim was completely different, and the painted enamels were of an old type, not like any that I have seen, they were selling them individually at $40.00 a piece with 50% off, I had a $20.00 bill on me so I bought the older piece, they also had a pair of vases that were late qing dynasty, that had been once made into lamps, they both had a hole in the bottom for a cord, they looked Chinese to me but possibly Jabanese, I would say they were about 16" tall, one had been repaired, there was a hairline crack and it was repaired with a staple on the inside top rim, the price on that on was $275.00, the other one was in excellent shape and the price was $$295.00 the subject matter are warriors.

Aug 02, 2011
age of plate
by: peter

Hi Stan,
Usually I would attribute this type of decoration to the 19th century, but the footrim looks like a typical 18th century rim.
Thus, it is probably a late 18th century item. What do you think?

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