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Chinese plate/1000 butterflies

by Irene
(Ireland)

Chinese plate/1000 butterflies

Chinese plate/1000 butterflies

Hi, Peter! I would like to know about other plate which pattern is called 1000 butterfly?! I've got eight of them. I've never hold it in my hands before but I've seen them on the web. Now I've got it but the patterns of the bodies butterflies look funny to me. I can't tell you I like them but there are unusual. Regards. Irene

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Sep 26, 2010
 Chinese Plate
by: Irene

Peter, it would be super if you help me. Can you actually see my email when you are sending to me all this massages? I don't now about via form yet.
Regards.
Irene


No, I don't see it. The system sends you an email when somebody adds a comment. Your email is not displayed. You only get emails from the system if you set your submission to this, usually.

You can use the contact form on the website. I will get it by email this way.
Sep 25, 2010
 genuine item
by: peter

Irene, if you want me to I can send you the names of a few online sellers who sell real antiques, but I cannot do it through this Blog. You have to send me your email via contact form.
By watching their items you can learn a little about export porceain (only).
Sep 25, 2010
 Chinese Plate
by: Irene

Thank you Peter once more for your support. I have to say I'll be always interested in Chinese ceramics. I find them most intriguing and beautiful things to collect and study. But I've never seen porcelains like on the Gallery on this website. They are so beautiful pieces!
Regards.
Irene
Sep 24, 2010
 chinese ceramics
by: peter

>I think now it's almost not real to find genuine >Chinese ceramic on the west. especially the old >one. I'll be happy to collect vintage or early >20th century except fake of course, which I've got >already earlier.

Irene,
It is still possible to find Chinese porcelain more than 100 or 200 years old, genuine and beautiful, but often not perfect.
But it comes at a price. For example, if you want a beautiful plate of let's say 20cm diameter, you have to expect a price that is at least 70 pound per piece. At local stores it may be more difficult to get the real thing, in some countries, than on the internet. That is also the case here. I buy most of my items at online auctions, but you have to know which ones are genuine. Even collectors in China buy huge quantities from the west because they have difficulties getting good, real antiques in China nowadays. That is a fact.

Read these two pages:
https://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/novice-collector.html
https://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/fake-antiques.html

Do you find you have any of the attitudes or habits mentioned? You will have to "learn" to recognize the real thing, and it is better to ask others BEFORE you buy. Don't do any blind buying. That is, don't buy thinking you may be lucky. You should understand one simple principle. The older the rarer are antique items. For this reason we are always likely to encounter newer items if we leave it to chance.
For example, if you know which buyers sell genuine Chinese antiques on Ebay, you are safer and pay less than if you go into an antique or thrift store.

There are still good antiques available, but you have to check them first. When I started out I preferred online auctions because I would have images, with which I could ask some people on the web more knowledgeable than me. Even experienced collectors will occasionally buy fakes (!) but not too many.

You have to learn by looking at many items, and not buying them on first impulsive. You can do that on the Internet too if you do not have easy access to collections or museums, etc..
It's easy, but one has to be willing to learn a lot, and one needs reference books earlier or later.
The places were most Chinese export porcelain is sold currently are the same countries which had East India Companies importing them in past centuries. This is also valid for Ebay. I have seen repeatedly antique items from the 19th or 18th century that obviously never have been used. The quantities imported were so huge that some never were used, but others are in all states of ageing or damage.
Sep 24, 2010
 Chinese Plate
by: Irene

Thank you Peter for comments. I think now it's almost not real to find genuine Chinese ceramic on the west. especially the old one. I'll be happy to collect vintage or early 20th century except fake of course, which I've got already earlier. Regards. Irene
Sep 22, 2010
 butterfly plate
by: peter

Irene,
I have such a plate before and I believe it is from the second half of the 20th century although some try to pass it off as antique.

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