many thanks again for this, in the 2 pictures of the bottom in the line i uploaded i can see some marks (are they chinese)
Kind Regards Roy
Hello,
Yes, it's actually a Shunzhi reign mark (17th century), but it is spurious. The vase can't be from then. Marks were and are frequently added for decorative purposes only, and they do not tell us anything, really, as the are often spurious.
Apr 11, 2011
vase by: peter
Hi Roy, You haven't uploaded a detailed picture of the bottom, yet that is the most important thing when checking age.
As European or Japanese porcelain has some different age characteristics, which I am not familiar with, all that I say can be applied to Chinese porcelain made in the traditional manner only. Just from these pictures alone I lean towards European Chinoiserie or Japanese export. If it is modern Chinese, then I am sure it is an attempt at copying European Chinoiserie, for the purpose of export. Clobbered vases are really not plenty among traditional Chinese ceramics, in Chinese ceramics, and this style of clobbering is almost unseen. If it is not Chinese, it would be more likely to have some age, in my view.
Apr 11, 2011
Vase by: Roy
hi Peter, i would like to know if you think the vase shows genuine ageing signs or its made to look that old. i do agree that the faces look very different from the usual traditional style.
Kind Regards Roy
Apr 10, 2011
vase by: peter
Hello, I think this is either Chinoiserie or a contemporary Chinese product. 1. That shape did not exist in antique porcelain from China. 2. The painting style is not typical for traditional Chinese porcelain. 3. The painting elements may show some Chinese scenery or action, but many details are different if compared with antique items. If you look at how people (faces), surroundings etc. were painted in ancient time there is a whole world of difference. Chinoiserie is European porcelain with Chinese motifs. This is also a possibility.
