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unique snuff bottle

by annemiek beemster
(lanaken)

Hello,
I wanted to know some more about this snufbottle.
The things i know (what's told me) is, that this is an
antique snuff bottle from the 17th century!!!!!
i'ts made in Honk Kong, and it's porcelain.
It had a restauration, (and I think the little spoon is plastic, a part of the restauration?) the stop is Yade
I only can't find out what the signs meen on the bottem.
Hopefully someone can tell me some more of this beautifull snuff bottle, it's about 7cm high.
Thanks..

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Feb 20, 2011

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by: peter

Hi Annemiek,
Many antique dealers have no idea of antique Chinese porcelain.
Did you read this? http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/antique-chinese-porcelain.html
Don't rely on provenance (that is what the seller tells you about an item's source). Learn to identify patterns, antiques, and fakes, etc. yourself.

Anyway, the bit of decoration at the sides seems to be a millefleur decoration, and does it show the black background behind the flowers? If yes, and if it is the specific millefleur pattern I think it is, then this decoration alone can prove the approximate manufacturing period in the second half of the 20th century.

By the way, I would recommend that you read a bit about porcelain age signs. It might help a little bit in future.

Feb 20, 2011

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by: annemiek beemster

Hmmmz, that means that the person I bought it from
lied about this item.
I'm very sad to hear this :-(
I payd â?¬40 for this bottle!!
What did you think of this item, if I didn't give the subscribing he gave me?
What did you had in mind? You wrote:The black decoration at the side would be important to verify whether it is the specific decoration I have in mind.
Thanks for your commands!!
Annemiek

Feb 19, 2011

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by: peter

Hi Annemiek,
The black decoration at the side would be important to verify whether it is the specific decoration I have in mind. Looking at the decoration on the side, from the bottom it looks like a typical decoration from the second half of the 20th century. Even if it is not the one I suspect, this item could still impossibly be from any other period than the 20th century. I'm afraid you have been had.

The bottom looks new, the foot rim looks even newer...The foot rim of a 17th, 18th or 19th century item would have been quite different.

Also, I doubt that the stop is Jade; jade usually looks quite different. Any characters of the mark cannot be read.

Even if it really were made in Hong Kong it still is new. Or, saying it in a different way, if it was really made in Hong Kong, it could never be 17th century.
Hong Kong was a very unimportant island until the 19th century, when the British and other foreign companies removed from the city of Canton to this little known island. All manufacturing before that would have been in China.

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