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Guangxu Blue and white dish identification

by Gray
(Toronto)

I was curious about what you thought about this piece. Would this still be late Qing dynasty? thanks

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by: Gray

I really value that information. Thank you. What is the best way to learn about characteristics of time periods? I know hands on is a good way, but what you told me about the oblique footrim, I would never be able to figure that out without some sort of knowledge.

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Difficult to say. Unfortunately, there don't seem many sources as far as I know. Mostly its here a piece of information and there a piece. With time that gives an overview over the situation.

Please be aware, however, that what I said is valid for the middle and late Qing period only. The 18th century is another matter. Then the foot rim was completely different.
Peter
Guangxu bowl
by: Gray

I do see what you mean about it being printed. There is paint missing in quite a few spots. Can that happen on a painted object? It can't possibly wear off unless it's over the glaze right? Thanks Peter I really appreciate it
decoration
by: peter

I cannot see any lines of the dragon clearly, so I am talking here about the decoration along the foot rim. How do you explain the blue lines interrupted with small white spaces?
That is usually a sign of transfer printing. I am not talking about silk screen printing or other modern printing methods. If you use a magnifier, can you see brush strokes? If it were of the period, the strokes would have to be painted by brush, and you should be able to distinguish the strokes. Especially towards the end where the blue color was running out, the shape and density of the stroke changes. If the color depth is the same all over...

With oblique inside I mean that it should be straight down, like on the outside, not going down at an angle. Most items (except large vases, perhaps) followed two or three different types of shapes at the time. An inclined rim side could not be of the Guangxu period.
And, a mark cannot be used for estimating age or time of manufacturing - not with Chinese porcelain. They often copied the marks of earlier reigns since the Ming dynasty, until now.

Overall said, your items looks pretty new. There are antique items that look new even after a long time, but mostly close examination is required to make sure, if no problems are found. If the foot rim is not of the period, it means it was made later, I'm afraid.
Guangxu bowl
by: Gray

Thanks for the reply. It's definitely not printed, but what do you mean about the oblique foot rim? So could this be after republic period?
porcelain box
by: peter

Hello,
Minute details of the painting of the dragon are not visible, as there are no closeups... however the picture showing the wave decoration along the foot gives the impression as if it were printed.
In addition, the foot rim itself looks as if it were oblique on the inside. That also makes it look as if it was not Guangxu. I'm afraid this could be a later copy.

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