Chinese Export Royal Armorial?

by Ping
(England)

Hi Peter,
I have pot planter crackle glaze the pattern is Vivat Oranye which is European.
There is no marks on it. I have found some similar pattern which is mention Chinese Export Royal Armorial.

I have no idea about this , could you please help me to identify this pot.

Regards,
Ping

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Monteith
by: Snap

This is not meant to be a planter (which would not be made as part of armorial set). It is supposed to be a monteith, which was designed to hold stemmed wine glasses in cool water.

I have seen some recently on market that are obviously too small for this purpose.

You do not give size, but originals should be at least 11 or 12 inches in diameter and sides not so steep.

Pastiche of motifs, adding relief 'lion' head should also be a warning.

Thank you
by: Ping

Hi Peter,

I want to say thank you very much for your information. I does help me a lot.

Regards,
Ping

armorial porcelain
by: peter

Hi Ping,
I would not touch it. Personally I think it is a fake.
Most porcelain with family crests are fine porcelain, dinner sets, etc. The majority I have seen use black and gilt, or underglaze blue, etc., but not bright or strong colors in the crest (possibly the taste of society at the time).
I never saw crackled or thickly potted items like this. I bought one with strong colors years ago and am convinced that it is a new fake.

Years ago armorial porcelain already got good prices. Now Chinese fakers have caught up with this. Today, if you watch Ebay for crested porcelain you will find the majority of sellers is in China.
I'm convinced that only few items of original would have remained in China, if any. You need to be careful as some fakes that changed hands are now sold by non-Chinese sellers. All armorial porcelain that shows little or no abrasion on the on-glaze colors is suspicious, even it is from non-Chinese sellers. Gilt is especially easy to rub off during use or cleaning. It could hardly be in pristine condition if antique.

Armorial porcelain was made to order for export only, probably only in very limited numbers for each family crest or initials.
It is highly unlikely that armorial porcelain with the crest or a royal house would come on the market at a price of less than four digits apiece. If there was an authentic one it would more likely go to one of the first tier auction houses in the first place.

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